Do you have a link to Khoth’s argument? I hadn’t found any publicised winning scenarios back when I looked, so I’d be really interested in reading about it!
Thanks for the link! I had a chuckle—that’s an interesting brand of cruelty, even if it only potentially works out of character. I think it highlights that it might potentially be easier to win the AI box experiment on a technicality, the proverbial letter of the law rather than the spirit of it.
I’ve got to admit I’m actually even quite impressed you managed to pull that off, because while the effort of the Gatekeeper’s obvious, I can’t imagine that was something that you felt was fun, and I think it takes some courage to be willing to cheat the spirit of the setup, annoy your scenario partner almost without a shadow of a doubt, and resist the urge to check up on the person. I think in your situation that would’ve driven me about as nuts as the Gatekeeper. You did mention feeling “kind of bad about it” in the log itself and I find myself wondering (a little bit) if that was an understatement.
Thanks to both of you two for sharing that; I’m glad you both evidently survived the ordeal without hard feelings.
Do you have a link to Khoth’s argument? I hadn’t found any publicised winning scenarios back when I looked, so I’d be really interested in reading about it!
Ah, sorry to get your hopes up, it’s a degenerate approach: http://pastebin.com/Jee2P6BD
Thanks for the link! I had a chuckle—that’s an interesting brand of cruelty, even if it only potentially works out of character. I think it highlights that it might potentially be easier to win the AI box experiment on a technicality, the proverbial letter of the law rather than the spirit of it.
It also hasn’t won. (Unless someone more secretive than me had had the same idea)
It’s a neat way to poke holes into the setup!
I’ve got to admit I’m actually even quite impressed you managed to pull that off, because while the effort of the Gatekeeper’s obvious, I can’t imagine that was something that you felt was fun, and I think it takes some courage to be willing to cheat the spirit of the setup, annoy your scenario partner almost without a shadow of a doubt, and resist the urge to check up on the person. I think in your situation that would’ve driven me about as nuts as the Gatekeeper. You did mention feeling “kind of bad about it” in the log itself and I find myself wondering (a little bit) if that was an understatement.
Thanks to both of you two for sharing that; I’m glad you both evidently survived the ordeal without hard feelings.
Here’s a link to some discussion that I found in case someone else wants to poke their nose into this: http://lesswrong.com/lw/kfb/open_thread_30_june_2014_6_july_2014/b1ts