imagine a group that was intelligent, rational enough they could rapidly adjust to new circumstances like (snap) *that*. they carry what they need in with them, wherever they go, and have the science of bootstrapping from the ground up down to an art form.
imagine they had a burning man ethos of ‘leave no trace’, or even left the place behind them better than it was found. imagine they stealth into a settled community like brownies to turn leather scraps into shoes.
imagine a culture of intentionality: rapid prototyping and testing of norms, thoughtul adoption with an eye to the long term.
A mobile rational community? (Not sure how relatively important are the other things you mentioned.)
I like this idea, because it seems to solve some issues I was thinking about. Such as, how difficult it is to coordinate with other rationalists to live near each other—well, if you all live in caravans, it is quite easy. The price for joining is buying your own caravan. Leaving one mobile rationalist group and joining another one (optimistically assuming that more than one such group exists) is easy. If you get disappointed with all communities, either move your caravan to a separate location, or sell it and return to the usual life.
How will the group decide when and where to move? Maybe you don’t actually need explicit rules for that, it’s just that people with very strong preferences can move unilaterally, and everyone else decides whether/whom to follow. The group can split, and later join or regroup. Maybe the rules would gradually evolve—the least agreeable people leaving the group without being followed, the remaining ones developing some kind of consensus making.
For those who can (e.g. software developers), it would probably make most sense to have fully remote jobs. Then you can move freely while keeping a reliable income.
What about costs? You would need to adopt some degree of minimalism, because there is only so much you can put in your caravan. (Though you could buy a larger one, or another one, if necessary.) This lifestyle would also hurt your social relations outside the group, or rather limit them to temporary or online relations.
I mean, we can. Drop a bunch of humans naked in a forest today and they won’t be able to replicate most of our inventions for centuries.
That’s actually an interesting question. How much does it count, in practice, that we know that something is possible, even if we don’t know the specific details? (And, of course, it would depend on the forest and its climate—how much energy is needed for how long for the mere survival and how much energy and time can be spend on replicating inventions).
i wish for a modern nomadic tribe
imagine a group that was intelligent, rational enough they could rapidly adjust to new circumstances like (snap) *that*. they carry what they need in with them, wherever they go, and have the science of bootstrapping from the ground up down to an art form.
imagine they had a burning man ethos of ‘leave no trace’, or even left the place behind them better than it was found. imagine they stealth into a settled community like brownies to turn leather scraps into shoes.
imagine a culture of intentionality: rapid prototyping and testing of norms, thoughtul adoption with an eye to the long term.
i wish. now what?
A mobile rational community? (Not sure how relatively important are the other things you mentioned.)
I like this idea, because it seems to solve some issues I was thinking about. Such as, how difficult it is to coordinate with other rationalists to live near each other—well, if you all live in caravans, it is quite easy. The price for joining is buying your own caravan. Leaving one mobile rationalist group and joining another one (optimistically assuming that more than one such group exists) is easy. If you get disappointed with all communities, either move your caravan to a separate location, or sell it and return to the usual life.
How will the group decide when and where to move? Maybe you don’t actually need explicit rules for that, it’s just that people with very strong preferences can move unilaterally, and everyone else decides whether/whom to follow. The group can split, and later join or regroup. Maybe the rules would gradually evolve—the least agreeable people leaving the group without being followed, the remaining ones developing some kind of consensus making.
For those who can (e.g. software developers), it would probably make most sense to have fully remote jobs. Then you can move freely while keeping a reliable income.
What about costs? You would need to adopt some degree of minimalism, because there is only so much you can put in your caravan. (Though you could buy a larger one, or another one, if necessary.) This lifestyle would also hurt your social relations outside the group, or rather limit them to temporary or online relations.
uh, something got lost in translation because I can’t make sense of what you’re saying
we can’t unknow our scientific knowledge.
of course we’d learn from and partially integrate into the local institutions when we stay some place, it would be literally insane not to
we already have migration—seasonal farmhands, escaping small towns, ratspies to the bay area?
That’s actually an interesting question. How much does it count, in practice, that we know that something is possible, even if we don’t know the specific details? (And, of course, it would depend on the forest and its climate—how much energy is needed for how long for the mere survival and how much energy and time can be spend on replicating inventions).