Could a solution to some of this be to raise some chickens for eggs, treat them nicely, give them space to roam, etc? Obviously the best would be to raise cows as well, treat them well, don’t kill the male calves, etc- but that’s much less of an option for most.
Your framing makes it sound like individual raising of livestock, which is silly—specialization of expertise and labor is a very good thing, and “EA reducetarians find or start up a reasonably sized farm whose animal welfare standards seem to them to be net positive” seems to dominate “each EA reducetarian tries to personally raise chickens in a net positive way” (even for those who think both are bad, the second one seems simply worse at a fixed level of consumption).
I was talking about for a farmer. For a consumer, they can get their eggs/milk from such a farmer and fund/invest in such a farm, if they can. Or talk to a local farm about setting aside some chickens, pay for them to be given extra space, better treatment, etc.
I don’t really know what you mean about the EA reducetarian stuff.
Also, if you as an individual want to be healthy, not contribute to harming animal and have the time, space, money, willingness etc to raise some chickens, why not?
Could a solution to some of this be to raise some chickens for eggs, treat them nicely, give them space to roam, etc?
Obviously the best would be to raise cows as well, treat them well, don’t kill the male calves, etc- but that’s much less of an option for most.
Your framing makes it sound like individual raising of livestock, which is silly—specialization of expertise and labor is a very good thing, and “EA reducetarians find or start up a reasonably sized farm whose animal welfare standards seem to them to be net positive” seems to dominate “each EA reducetarian tries to personally raise chickens in a net positive way” (even for those who think both are bad, the second one seems simply worse at a fixed level of consumption).
I was talking about for a farmer. For a consumer, they can get their eggs/milk from such a farmer and fund/invest in such a farm, if they can.
Or talk to a local farm about setting aside some chickens, pay for them to be given extra space, better treatment, etc.
I don’t really know what you mean about the EA reducetarian stuff.
Also, if you as an individual want to be healthy, not contribute to harming animal and have the time, space, money, willingness etc to raise some chickens, why not?