Can we please not have this discussion here? Posters here are posting under their real names or lasting pseudonyms, so they can’t defend the un-PC arguments without making numerous crimethink statements that could rebound against them in real life. So those who advance the PC arguments will wind up shadowboxing with those who don’t fear retaliation or reputational costs, and we won’t get a real honest discussion.
Questions of race and intelligence will be settled decisively within 5 or 10 years when large scale whole-genome sequencing studies are done.
It’s complicated. Different people will probably interpret it differently. I figured the template is common enough that people would see it as a reference and not take the sarcasm personally, but still realize the argument rests on a shaky assumption. I got voted up a lot, so I figure people took it the way I intended.
Posters here are posting under their real names or lasting pseudonyms, so they can’t defend the un-PC arguments without making numerous crimethink statements that could rebound against them in real life.
While I’m not sure if avoiding the discussion altogether is an optimal solution I do share your frustration. It took me a while to realise that using my real name here was a bad idea. We aren’t all that much less wrong.
Precisely. Especially since, while a lot of us have jobs where we either work for ourselves or our bosses just don’t care… some of us have those repressive nightmare jobs where our bosses google for us regularly outside of work hours.
Can we please not have this discussion here? Posters here are posting under their real names or lasting pseudonyms, so they can’t defend the un-PC arguments without making numerous crimethink statements that could rebound against them in real life. So those who advance the PC arguments will wind up shadowboxing with those who don’t fear retaliation or reputational costs, and we won’t get a real honest discussion.
Questions of race and intelligence will be settled decisively within 5 or 10 years when large scale whole-genome sequencing studies are done.
Oh, look honey! It’s someone who thinks zealots are willing to change their minds when presented with overwhelming evidence!
That’s nice, dear.
Is it just me misunderstanding the subtleties of a foreign language, or is this un-LW-ishly rude?
It’s complicated. Different people will probably interpret it differently. I figured the template is common enough that people would see it as a reference and not take the sarcasm personally, but still realize the argument rests on a shaky assumption. I got voted up a lot, so I figure people took it the way I intended.
While I’m not sure if avoiding the discussion altogether is an optimal solution I do share your frustration. It took me a while to realise that using my real name here was a bad idea. We aren’t all that much less wrong.
Yeah, rule numero uno of the internet is to remain ANON as much as possible.
Precisely. Especially since, while a lot of us have jobs where we either work for ourselves or our bosses just don’t care… some of us have those repressive nightmare jobs where our bosses google for us regularly outside of work hours.
But isn’t it easy to make a temporary pseudonymous account on this website?
14 years have passed. Has the issue been decisively settled?
I feel like a lot more direct genetic evidence has surfaced: 1, 2, 3, 4.
Those first 4 links, I think, are pretty unconvincing in isolation, but this one is fine.
[Disclaimer 1: I just linked things that I remembered off the top of my head.]
[Disclaimer 2: I think that the case for hereditarianism was quite overwhelming even 14 years ago, so you should consider me biased.]