I am introducing this position because its an attack on rationalism hence me asking Rationalists what they thought about it. It seems you Rationalists are unimpressed.
Which, intuitionist mathematics or the screed by Nynznevh (translate using rot13.com) who has a BA in mathematics? To the extent that they have anything to do with each other at all, they are pretty much opposite things, and for different reasons neither of them impress me.
Intuitionist mathematics sought to curb what Brouwer saw as the excesses of reason by putting up a fence limiting reason only to such methods as could be justified by (Brouwer’s) intuition.
Romanticism sees reason as a fence curbing intuition, a fence that must be destroyed to allow free rein to the passions that are hobbled by civilisation, that the strong may exult in their strength, rule over the weak, and “purify the world of refuse”.
But what do you think? You have quoted this and mentioned that, but not once ventured to express a view of your own. Put up or be dismissed as a troll.
My own position is rationalist, I do believe that the proper use of reason is essential for understanding the world. Intuition cannot be separated from reason because it will only lead one to the truth if once mind is first “calibrated” by previous scientific research/rational ordering one has to learn to think rationally, which then makes once thought patterns (both conscious and unconscious) directed towards discovering what one seeks in science. Logic is an essential part of mathematics and science in general and most scientists do look at the world in a clear-headed and disenchanted way.
I personally dislike romanticism, especially of this fascist/Nietzschian kind, but I don’t know any natural scientists and so I see it as a possibility that I am wrong and that Pbfgvaf (translate using rot13.com) is right, hence my questions here. I do consider just about all of his ideas abhorrent. They are probably the complete opposite to mine, which is a reason why they drew my attention.
Which, intuitionist mathematics or the screed by Nynznevh (translate using rot13.com) who has a BA in mathematics? To the extent that they have anything to do with each other at all, they are pretty much opposite things, and for different reasons neither of them impress me.
Intuitionist mathematics sought to curb what Brouwer saw as the excesses of reason by putting up a fence limiting reason only to such methods as could be justified by (Brouwer’s) intuition.
Romanticism sees reason as a fence curbing intuition, a fence that must be destroyed to allow free rein to the passions that are hobbled by civilisation, that the strong may exult in their strength, rule over the weak, and “purify the world of refuse”.
But what do you think? You have quoted this and mentioned that, but not once ventured to express a view of your own. Put up or be dismissed as a troll.
My own position is rationalist, I do believe that the proper use of reason is essential for understanding the world. Intuition cannot be separated from reason because it will only lead one to the truth if once mind is first “calibrated” by previous scientific research/rational ordering one has to learn to think rationally, which then makes once thought patterns (both conscious and unconscious) directed towards discovering what one seeks in science. Logic is an essential part of mathematics and science in general and most scientists do look at the world in a clear-headed and disenchanted way.
I personally dislike romanticism, especially of this fascist/Nietzschian kind, but I don’t know any natural scientists and so I see it as a possibility that I am wrong and that Pbfgvaf (translate using rot13.com) is right, hence my questions here. I do consider just about all of his ideas abhorrent. They are probably the complete opposite to mine, which is a reason why they drew my attention.