Even so, I’m concerned about the reputational and public-safety consequences of not simultaneously gathering “no side-effect” reports
If you look at this thread there are plenty of people who do post “no side-effect” reports. When people send me those reports privately, I do post them here even when it’s not the information that’s valuable to me.
Doing anything that would effectively stop those reports from happening would be bad.
The question is whether to do this as a poll or not and not stopping the gathering of “no side-effect” reports.
Even so, I’m concerned about the reputational and public-safety consequences
Optimizing for reputation instead focusing on truth seeking is dangerous. This kind of reasoning killed a lot of people in the last year.
It’s not easy to choose truth seeking but in the end that’s what the rationalist project is about. It’s not like I don’t have impulses in the other direction as well, but then I go back and optimize for truth seeking even when it’s an effort and comes with risk.
To get back to the poll question, there are two choices:
Have an anonymous poll. This opens us up to outsiders coming and creating a lot of false votes.
Have a named poll, this discourages people who might say something inconvient from participating.
Irrelevant nit: the archaic second-person singular of “do” is “dost”, as in “dost thou not know”. “Doth” is the third-person form, as in “the lady doth protest too much”.
If you look at this thread there are plenty of people who do post “no side-effect” reports. When people send me those reports privately, I do post them here even when it’s not the information that’s valuable to me.
Doing anything that would effectively stop those reports from happening would be bad.
The question is whether to do this as a poll or not and not stopping the gathering of “no side-effect” reports.
Optimizing for reputation instead focusing on truth seeking is dangerous. This kind of reasoning killed a lot of people in the last year.
It’s not easy to choose truth seeking but in the end that’s what the rationalist project is about. It’s not like I don’t have impulses in the other direction as well, but then I go back and optimize for truth seeking even when it’s an effort and comes with risk.
To get back to the poll question, there are two choices:
Have an anonymous poll. This opens us up to outsiders coming and creating a lot of false votes.
Have a named poll, this discourages people who might say something inconvient from participating.
Excuse me? I’m not suggesting there’s anything wrong with measuring the numerator. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Irrelevant nit: the archaic second-person singular of “do” is “dost”, as in “dost thou not know”. “Doth” is the third-person form, as in “the lady doth protest too much”.
It’s a higher Simulacra level. Zvi wrote a lot about how COVID-19 decision making at higher simulacra levels lead to a lot of harm.
And in this particular case? How does shunning the denominator increase safety here?