Well that certainly set the record straight! I suppose that you consider yourself an authority on the matter. Or, are you just accepting someone else’s opinion (who you consider an authority)?
If Omega stopped and talked to me for a while, instead of just dropping off the boxes, I’ll wager I can understand (perhaps after a learning curve) anything that he wishes to explain to me. If he can not, then he doesn’t understand it himself.
You may be correct about your own ability to understand anything that a superintelligence understands. I don’t know you, and it would not be polite of me to speculate about that. But based on my own experiences, I’m rather confident that I don’t have that ability. I’m also rather confident that there are tools that increase my ability to reason effectively.
I think the idea of ‘probability as authority’ makes some sense as a metaphor. Probability has some rules, and if you follow those rules you are rewarded, and if you break those rules you are punished. The reward and punishment come in the form of ‘making good decisions’ and ‘making dumb decisions’. I’d say probability is an authority in roughly the same way that gravity is a law, i.e. not really, but an occasionally useful metaphor.
This sounds like a disagreement in definitions of “Authority”. It’s probably worth tabooing it.
When one accepts the assumption(s) of a system of logic, then one must necessarily follow the derivational logic tree to the built-in conclusion.
Reality could not care less about man’s rules, or laws.
This one works for me.
Authority: the power to determine, adjudicate, or otherwise settle issues or disputes; jurisdiction; the right to control, command, or determine.
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This turns out not to be the case.
“This turns out not to be the case.”
Well that certainly set the record straight! I suppose that you consider yourself an authority on the matter. Or, are you just accepting someone else’s opinion (who you consider an authority)?
If Omega stopped and talked to me for a while, instead of just dropping off the boxes, I’ll wager I can understand (perhaps after a learning curve) anything that he wishes to explain to me. If he can not, then he doesn’t understand it himself.
You may be correct about your own ability to understand anything that a superintelligence understands. I don’t know you, and it would not be polite of me to speculate about that. But based on my own experiences, I’m rather confident that I don’t have that ability. I’m also rather confident that there are tools that increase my ability to reason effectively.
No Dave, I’m saying there is no superintelligence. If God herself cannot explain it, then She doesn’t understand it!
I think the idea of ‘probability as authority’ makes some sense as a metaphor. Probability has some rules, and if you follow those rules you are rewarded, and if you break those rules you are punished. The reward and punishment come in the form of ‘making good decisions’ and ‘making dumb decisions’. I’d say probability is an authority in roughly the same way that gravity is a law, i.e. not really, but an occasionally useful metaphor.
This sounds like a disagreement in definitions of “Authority”. It’s probably worth tabooing it.
When one accepts the assumption(s) of a system of logic, then one must necessarily follow the derivational logic tree to the built-in conclusion.
Reality could not care less about man’s rules, or laws.
This one works for me. Authority: the power to determine, adjudicate, or otherwise settle issues or disputes; jurisdiction; the right to control, command, or determine.