It would be useful to have a clarification of these points, to know how different of an org you actually encountered, compared to the one I did when I (briefly) visited in 2014.
It is not true that people were expected to undergo training by their manager.
OK, but did you have any assurance that the information from charting was kept confidential from other Leveragers? I got the impression Geoff charted people who he raised money from, for example, so it at least raises the question whether information gleaned from debugging might be discussed with that person’s manager.
“being experimented on” was not my primary purpose in joining nor would I now describe it as a main focus of my time at Leverage.
OK, but would you agree that a primary activity of leverage was to do psych/sociology research, and a major (>=50%) methodology for that was self-experimentation?
I did not find the group to be overly focused on “its own sociology.”
OK, but would you agree that at least ~half of the group spent at least ~half of their time studying psychology and/or sociology, using the group as subjects?
The stated purpose of Leverage 1.0 was not to literally take over the US and/or global governance or “take over the world,”...OPs claim is false.
OK, but you agree that it was was to ensure “global coordination” and “the impossibility of bad governments”, per the plan, right? Do you agree that “the vibe was ‘take over the world’”, per the OP?
I did not believe or feel pressured to believe that Leverage was “the only organization with a plan that could possibly work.”
OK, but would you agree that many staff said this, even if you personally didn’t feel pressured to take the belief on?
I did not find “Geoff’s power and prowess as a leader [to be] a central theme.”
OK, but did you notice staff saying that he was one of the great theorists of our time? Or that a significant part of the hope for the organisation was to deploy adapt certain ideas of his, like connection theory, which “solved psychology” to deal with cases with multiple individuals, in order to design larger orgs, memes, etc?
Hopefully, the answers to these questions could be mostly-separated from our subjective impressions. Which might sound harsh, or resembling a cross-examination. But it seems necessary in order to figure out to what extent we can reach a shared understanding of “common knowledge facts”, at least about different moments in LR’s history (potentially also differing in our interpretations), versus the facts themselves actually being contested.
It would be useful to have a clarification of these points, to know how different of an org you actually encountered, compared to the one I did when I (briefly) visited in 2014.
OK, but did you have any assurance that the information from charting was kept confidential from other Leveragers? I got the impression Geoff charted people who he raised money from, for example, so it at least raises the question whether information gleaned from debugging might be discussed with that person’s manager.
OK, but would you agree that a primary activity of leverage was to do psych/sociology research, and a major (>=50%) methodology for that was self-experimentation?
OK, but would you agree that at least ~half of the group spent at least ~half of their time studying psychology and/or sociology, using the group as subjects?
OK, but you agree that it was was to ensure “global coordination” and “the impossibility of bad governments”, per the plan, right? Do you agree that “the vibe was ‘take over the world’”, per the OP?
OK, but would you agree that many staff said this, even if you personally didn’t feel pressured to take the belief on?
OK, but did you notice staff saying that he was one of the great theorists of our time? Or that a significant part of the hope for the organisation was to deploy adapt certain ideas of his, like connection theory, which “solved psychology” to deal with cases with multiple individuals, in order to design larger orgs, memes, etc?
Hopefully, the answers to these questions could be mostly-separated from our subjective impressions. Which might sound harsh, or resembling a cross-examination. But it seems necessary in order to figure out to what extent we can reach a shared understanding of “common knowledge facts”, at least about different moments in LR’s history (potentially also differing in our interpretations), versus the facts themselves actually being contested.