I believe about Sacks views comes from regularly listening to the All-In Podcast where he regularly talks about AI.
Do you have any quotes or any particular podcast episodes you recommend?
if you would ask the Department of Homeland security for their justification there’s a good chance that they would say “national security”.
Yeah, I agree that one needs to have a pretty narrow conception of national security. In the absence of that, there’s concept creep in which you can justify pretty much anything under a broad conception of national security. (Indeed, I suspect that lots of folks on the left justified a lot of general efforts to censor conservatives as a matter of national security//public safety, under the view that a Trump presidency would be disastrous for America//the world//democracy. And this is the kind of thing that clearly violates a narrower conception of national security.)
How to exactly draw the line is a difficult question, but I think most people would clearly be able to see a difference between “preventing model from outputting detailed instructions/plans to develop bioweapons” and “preventing model from voicing support for political positions that some people think are problematic.”
Do you have any quotes or any particular podcast episodes you recommend?
I don’t have specific recommendations for the past. I would expect a section in the next All-In Podcast in which David Sachs participates to law out his views a bit.
How to exactly draw the line is a difficult question,
That’s the question you would ask if you think the person who’s drawing the line is aligned. If you think the people speaking about national security and using that to further different political and geopolitical ends are not aligned, it’s not the most interesting question.
It sounds to me like you are taking this as an abstract policy issue while ignoring the real-world censorship industrial complex. It’s like discussing union policy in the 1970s and 1980s in New York without taking into account that a lot of strikes are because someone failed to pay the Mafia.
If you don’t know what the censorship industrial complex is, Joe Rogan had a good interview with Mike Benz, who is a former official with the U.S. Department of State and current Executive Director of the Foundation For Freedom Online.
Do you have any quotes or any particular podcast episodes you recommend?
Yeah, I agree that one needs to have a pretty narrow conception of national security. In the absence of that, there’s concept creep in which you can justify pretty much anything under a broad conception of national security. (Indeed, I suspect that lots of folks on the left justified a lot of general efforts to censor conservatives as a matter of national security//public safety, under the view that a Trump presidency would be disastrous for America//the world//democracy. And this is the kind of thing that clearly violates a narrower conception of national security.)
How to exactly draw the line is a difficult question, but I think most people would clearly be able to see a difference between “preventing model from outputting detailed instructions/plans to develop bioweapons” and “preventing model from voicing support for political positions that some people think are problematic.”
I don’t have specific recommendations for the past. I would expect a section in the next All-In Podcast in which David Sachs participates to law out his views a bit.
That’s the question you would ask if you think the person who’s drawing the line is aligned. If you think the people speaking about national security and using that to further different political and geopolitical ends are not aligned, it’s not the most interesting question.
It sounds to me like you are taking this as an abstract policy issue while ignoring the real-world censorship industrial complex. It’s like discussing union policy in the 1970s and 1980s in New York without taking into account that a lot of strikes are because someone failed to pay the Mafia.
If you don’t know what the censorship industrial complex is, Joe Rogan had a good interview with Mike Benz, who is a former official with the U.S. Department of State and current Executive Director of the Foundation For Freedom Online.