I do in fact feel attacked by the suggestion that huge swaths of things valuable to me are worthless and ought to be done away with!
Unless you enjoy being outraged at a low threshold by something outside your control, this is a trait that you should be dissatisfied with and attempt to modify, not something to be stated as immovable fact. I, note however, that acting like that trait is an immovable fact makes for more favorable status dynamics and a better emotion-bargaining position...
Unless you enjoy being outraged at a low threshold by something outside your control, this is a trait that you should be dissatisfied with and attempt to modify
Does not follow. I prefer to feel in ways that reflect the world around me. As long as I also think this sort of thing is an attack, feeling that way is in accord with that preference whether it makes me happier or not. As long as I don’t care to occupy a pushover role where I make myself okay with whatever happens to be going on so that people don’t have to account for my values, drawing a line beyond which I will not self-modify makes perfect sense; and in fact I do not want to occupy that pushover role.
I note however, that acting like that trait is an immovable fact makes for more favorable status dynamics and a better emotion-bargaining position...
I derive some of my status from cultivating the ability to modify myself as I please; I’d actually sacrifice some of that if I declared this unchangeable. And I do not declare it unchangeable! I just have other values than happiness.
I prefer to feel in ways that reflect the world around me. As long as I also think this sort of thing is an attack, feeling that way is in accord with that preference whether it makes me happier or not. As long as I don’t care to occupy a pushover role where I make myself okay with whatever happens to be going on
In any normal social context it would be reasonable to assume that this an overconfident statement deliberately made without caveats in order to enhance bargaining power. Which is fine—humans are selfish.
This being LW where there’s a good chance that this was intended literally—this sort of rigidity was exactly why “learning how to lose” is a skill.
In any normal social context it would be reasonable to assume that this an overconfident statement deliberately made without caveats in order to enhance bargaining power. Which is fine—humans are selfish.
That isn’t true. There are times where overconfidence is used to enhance bargaining power. But people just really not liking people doing things that hurt them is just considered normal and healthy human behavior.
This being LW where there’s a good chance that this was intended literally—this sort of rigidity was exactly why “learning how to lose” is a skill.
No, it isn’t. Learning to lose is an independent skill to knowing what ‘lose’ means and not liking to lose.
I derive some of my status from cultivating the ability to modify myself as I please; I’d actually sacrifice some of that if I declared this unchangeable. And I do not declare it unchangeable! I just have other values than happiness.
Have 7.34 status points for not wireheading (more than you reflectively desire to wirehead). Some things you cancounter-signal.
Unless you enjoy being outraged at a low threshold by something outside your control, this is a trait that you should be dissatisfied with and attempt to modify, not something to be stated as immovable fact. I, note however, that acting like that trait is an immovable fact makes for more favorable status dynamics and a better emotion-bargaining position...
Does not follow. I prefer to feel in ways that reflect the world around me. As long as I also think this sort of thing is an attack, feeling that way is in accord with that preference whether it makes me happier or not. As long as I don’t care to occupy a pushover role where I make myself okay with whatever happens to be going on so that people don’t have to account for my values, drawing a line beyond which I will not self-modify makes perfect sense; and in fact I do not want to occupy that pushover role.
I derive some of my status from cultivating the ability to modify myself as I please; I’d actually sacrifice some of that if I declared this unchangeable. And I do not declare it unchangeable! I just have other values than happiness.
In any normal social context it would be reasonable to assume that this an overconfident statement deliberately made without caveats in order to enhance bargaining power. Which is fine—humans are selfish.
This being LW where there’s a good chance that this was intended literally—this sort of rigidity was exactly why “learning how to lose” is a skill.
That isn’t true. There are times where overconfidence is used to enhance bargaining power. But people just really not liking people doing things that hurt them is just considered normal and healthy human behavior.
No, it isn’t. Learning to lose is an independent skill to knowing what ‘lose’ means and not liking to lose.
Have 7.34 status points for not wireheading (more than you reflectively desire to wirehead). Some things you can counter-signal.