fwiw I think stealing money from mostly-rich-people in order to donate it isn’t obviously crazy. Decouple this claim from anything FTX did in particular, since I know next to nothing about the details of what happened there. From my perspective, it could be they were definite villains or super-ethical risk-takers (low prior).
Thought I’d say because I definitely feel reluctance to say so. I don’t like this feeling, and it seems like good anti-bandwagon policy to say a thing when one feels even slight social pressure to shut up.
I personally know more than one person for whom the majority of their life savings were stolen from them, who put it into FTX in part because of the trust Sam had in the EA ecosystem. I think there’s a pretty strong schelling line (supported and enforced by the law) against theft, such that even if it is worth it on naive utilitarian terms I am strongly in favor of punishing and imprisoning anyone who does so, so that people can work together safe in the knowledge that all the resources they’ve worked hard to earn won’t be straightforwardly taken from them.
(In this comment I’m more trying to say “massive theft should be harshly punished regardless of intention” than say “I know the psychology behind why SBF, Caroline Ellison, and others, stole everyone’s money”.)
fwiw I think stealing money from mostly-rich-people in order to donate it isn’t obviously crazy. Decouple this claim from anything FTX did in particular, since I know next to nothing about the details of what happened there. From my perspective, it could be they were definite villains or super-ethical risk-takers (low prior).
Thought I’d say because I definitely feel reluctance to say so. I don’t like this feeling, and it seems like good anti-bandwagon policy to say a thing when one feels even slight social pressure to shut up.
I personally know more than one person for whom the majority of their life savings were stolen from them, who put it into FTX in part because of the trust Sam had in the EA ecosystem. I think there’s a pretty strong schelling line (supported and enforced by the law) against theft, such that even if it is worth it on naive utilitarian terms I am strongly in favor of punishing and imprisoning anyone who does so, so that people can work together safe in the knowledge that all the resources they’ve worked hard to earn won’t be straightforwardly taken from them.
(In this comment I’m more trying to say “massive theft should be harshly punished regardless of intention” than say “I know the psychology behind why SBF, Caroline Ellison, and others, stole everyone’s money”.)