now, as a generality your first statement is correct, but after searching for some years I’ve concluded the easiest method is in fact mild support for a partisan anti war website, reason being; on average wars are more destructive than no-wars, and definitely inductive of irrationality.
a note about the particular partisan site, it’s not a single source by any means-I believe this is the cause of contention?- it’s actually an aggregation of ‘anti war’ news from multiple sources including mainstream channels and others.
as such the ‘single source’ label is negated.
second statement: yes, science and politics are connected, but I believe this misses the point, in the domain of national policy, the more hawkish elements have been in control for quite a while now, pitting the US against third world destitute farmers and shepherds. that’s not exactly a rational path, and so, as much as we should support stem cell research for eg. that wasn’t the angle I was coming from.
third; answered, see above.
fourth; it does as an issue to be concerned with, but surely not in context of the discussion? strategic theorizing on possible crypto use by say an afghan warlord concerned for his poppy production is quite a marginal concern compared to the US government launching wars that cost trillions and benefit humanity little to nothing while increasing likelihood of retaliation etc.
now, as a generality your first statement is correct, but after searching for some years I’ve concluded the easiest method is in fact mild support for a partisan anti war website, reason being; on average wars are more destructive than no-wars, and definitely inductive of irrationality.
What do you mean by support? In the context of your earlier remarks, “support” seems to mean “use as sole newsource.” I don’t see how even if one accepted your premises one would get that as a conclusion.
it’s actually an aggregation of ‘anti war’ news from multiple sources including mainstream channels and others. as such the ‘single source’ label is negated.
This makes no difference. For purposes of getting relevant data and avoiding mind-killing, a partisan aggregator will be functionally identical to a partisan single source.
science and politics are connected, but I believe this misses the point, in the domain of national policy, the more hawkish elements have been in control for quite a while now, pitting the US against third world destitute farmers and shepherds. that’s not exactly a rational path, and so, as much as we should support stem cell research for eg. that wasn’t the angle I was coming from.
In regards to the connection between science and politics, I’m not sure I can parse what you are saying and in so far as I can parse it, it seems like you have a problematic attitude. Not everything is about simple ideological support or not, and your response above seems to almost be an indication of Mindkilling spreading from politics to science. This is precisely why I gave the example of ITER and whether or not it should be funded and if so by how much. Science impacts policy. And it isn’t anything as simple as “oh, we should support this but not support that. Stem cells, yay! People who don’t like stem cells cells, booh!” To use your example of stem cells, how much resources should go into stem cell research is quite complicated. The standard reaction against theistic arguments against embryonic stem cell research is to conclude that we should have massive amounts of research into stem cells. But that’s not necessarily the case. We have a limited amount of resources that is going to go to biological and medical research. How much of that should go to stem cells? That should be the question that you should ask and not come away with some general notion of “support.”
trategic theorizing on possible crypto use by say an afghan warlord concerned for his poppy production is quite a marginal concern compared to the US government launching wars that cost trillions and benefit humanity little to nothing while increasing likelihood of retaliation etc.
You are missing the point. The change that crypto brings (and for that matter is actually bringing) is the benefits it brings to the little guy, the decentralized individuals, not the warlord. The person leaking documents or the resistance fighter/terrorist/guerrilla/etc are the types who benefit from having strong crypto. This is why for a long time the US classified cryptography as munitions for export purposes. And saying that you don’t think crypto is that important isn’t an argument that has any validity in this context given that as you noted you are talking about a news aggregration site, so they can easily include relevant articles. The lack of articles about crypto (and for that matter a fair number of other issues) on the site indicate an oversimplified view of what issues are relevant to warfare and ongoing war.
Incidentally, I’m curious what evidence you have that any of the US wars in the last decade have put the US up against “third world destitute farmers and shepherd” as the main opposition.
a belated reply:
now, as a generality your first statement is correct, but after searching for some years I’ve concluded the easiest method is in fact mild support for a partisan anti war website, reason being; on average wars are more destructive than no-wars, and definitely inductive of irrationality.
a note about the particular partisan site, it’s not a single source by any means-I believe this is the cause of contention?- it’s actually an aggregation of ‘anti war’ news from multiple sources including mainstream channels and others. as such the ‘single source’ label is negated.
second statement: yes, science and politics are connected, but I believe this misses the point, in the domain of national policy, the more hawkish elements have been in control for quite a while now, pitting the US against third world destitute farmers and shepherds. that’s not exactly a rational path, and so, as much as we should support stem cell research for eg. that wasn’t the angle I was coming from.
third; answered, see above.
fourth; it does as an issue to be concerned with, but surely not in context of the discussion? strategic theorizing on possible crypto use by say an afghan warlord concerned for his poppy production is quite a marginal concern compared to the US government launching wars that cost trillions and benefit humanity little to nothing while increasing likelihood of retaliation etc.
What do you mean by support? In the context of your earlier remarks, “support” seems to mean “use as sole newsource.” I don’t see how even if one accepted your premises one would get that as a conclusion.
This makes no difference. For purposes of getting relevant data and avoiding mind-killing, a partisan aggregator will be functionally identical to a partisan single source.
In regards to the connection between science and politics, I’m not sure I can parse what you are saying and in so far as I can parse it, it seems like you have a problematic attitude. Not everything is about simple ideological support or not, and your response above seems to almost be an indication of Mindkilling spreading from politics to science. This is precisely why I gave the example of ITER and whether or not it should be funded and if so by how much. Science impacts policy. And it isn’t anything as simple as “oh, we should support this but not support that. Stem cells, yay! People who don’t like stem cells cells, booh!” To use your example of stem cells, how much resources should go into stem cell research is quite complicated. The standard reaction against theistic arguments against embryonic stem cell research is to conclude that we should have massive amounts of research into stem cells. But that’s not necessarily the case. We have a limited amount of resources that is going to go to biological and medical research. How much of that should go to stem cells? That should be the question that you should ask and not come away with some general notion of “support.”
You are missing the point. The change that crypto brings (and for that matter is actually bringing) is the benefits it brings to the little guy, the decentralized individuals, not the warlord. The person leaking documents or the resistance fighter/terrorist/guerrilla/etc are the types who benefit from having strong crypto. This is why for a long time the US classified cryptography as munitions for export purposes. And saying that you don’t think crypto is that important isn’t an argument that has any validity in this context given that as you noted you are talking about a news aggregration site, so they can easily include relevant articles. The lack of articles about crypto (and for that matter a fair number of other issues) on the site indicate an oversimplified view of what issues are relevant to warfare and ongoing war.
Incidentally, I’m curious what evidence you have that any of the US wars in the last decade have put the US up against “third world destitute farmers and shepherd” as the main opposition.