Hi Roland, since I’m currently in the process of signing up for cryonics I have looked into this a bit too. There are indeed no other options (yet), and I would personally be wary about trusting a new institute, anyways. There has been a number of institutes before that went bankrupt before or failed due to personal conflict amongst the founders, so this is definitely a concern. I also don’t know how a for-profit model like KrioRus’s will work for cryonics. I live in Germany and I’ve been informed that the transportation of the body over the border is tricky, but they might have added more options by now.
That said, in some cases where institutes failed to survive, the bodies were transported and stored with Alcor before, so not all might be lost.
About your questions:
1.) This seems to be a question of what you think future technology is capable of. I’ve heard that considering what medicine is capable of at present, the damage cannot be repaired. There is still formation of ice crystals and macroscopic breaks of the tissue when the body freezes from outside to inside. That of course doesn’t mean it will be impossible in the future too, though. However, it might be more practical to scan the body and build a new one or upload rather than repairing the broken one.
2.) It depends on your country. I know there are efforts to work together with embalmers in Germany, so if that goes well they would be able to perform the vitrification process in Germany and fly the body to the US without further damage. I think there is a working team in England that will provide first care, but I’m unsure what that entails and whether they will fly to other countries as well.
Take my words with a grain of salt—a lot of this information is what I recall from a presentation on the topic I recently heard and I don’t have in-depth knowledge of the topic. If you want to talk to a better-informed member of the German cryonics association (DGAB), I will happily put you in contact.
Hi Roland, since I’m currently in the process of signing up for cryonics I have looked into this a bit too. There are indeed no other options (yet), and I would personally be wary about trusting a new institute, anyways. There has been a number of institutes before that went bankrupt before or failed due to personal conflict amongst the founders, so this is definitely a concern. I also don’t know how a for-profit model like KrioRus’s will work for cryonics. I live in Germany and I’ve been informed that the transportation of the body over the border is tricky, but they might have added more options by now. That said, in some cases where institutes failed to survive, the bodies were transported and stored with Alcor before, so not all might be lost.
About your questions: 1.) This seems to be a question of what you think future technology is capable of. I’ve heard that considering what medicine is capable of at present, the damage cannot be repaired. There is still formation of ice crystals and macroscopic breaks of the tissue when the body freezes from outside to inside. That of course doesn’t mean it will be impossible in the future too, though. However, it might be more practical to scan the body and build a new one or upload rather than repairing the broken one.
2.) It depends on your country. I know there are efforts to work together with embalmers in Germany, so if that goes well they would be able to perform the vitrification process in Germany and fly the body to the US without further damage. I think there is a working team in England that will provide first care, but I’m unsure what that entails and whether they will fly to other countries as well.
Take my words with a grain of salt—a lot of this information is what I recall from a presentation on the topic I recently heard and I don’t have in-depth knowledge of the topic. If you want to talk to a better-informed member of the German cryonics association (DGAB), I will happily put you in contact.