Are you interested in these debates in order to help form your own views, or convince others?
I feel like debates are inferior to reading people’s writings for the former purpose, and for the latter they deal collateral damage by making the public conversation more adversarial.
for bengio and turner, the former. for bezos vs connor, definitely the latter, but the public conversation is already adversarial which is why I care to respond in a way that seeks to establish truthseeking in a hostile context, ie, we can honor the reasonable claims but must dishonor the way the reasonable claims are entered in order to get any use out of that. Connor is reasonably good at this but needs to tone down some traits that I don’t know how to advise further on. bengio and turner would hopefully do it in text I guess, yeah.
Are you interested in these debates in order to help form your own views, or convince others?
I feel like debates are inferior to reading people’s writings for the former purpose, and for the latter they deal collateral damage by making the public conversation more adversarial.
for bengio and turner, the former. for bezos vs connor, definitely the latter, but the public conversation is already adversarial which is why I care to respond in a way that seeks to establish truthseeking in a hostile context, ie, we can honor the reasonable claims but must dishonor the way the reasonable claims are entered in order to get any use out of that. Connor is reasonably good at this but needs to tone down some traits that I don’t know how to advise further on. bengio and turner would hopefully do it in text I guess, yeah.