“We can’t both be right, but I guess talking about it won’t lead us anywhere, so let’s just forget about it”
Yep. Let’s not fight about it.
I would say that even among rationalists, it may be sometimes useful to settle for: “logically, at least one of us must be wrong… but finding out which one would probably be too costly, and this topic is not that important”.
Ironically I understood the “too costly” logic between rationalists pretty fast, since I’ve witnessed arguments being dissolved or hitting an objectively hard barrier to overcome really fast.
When I’m dealing with non rationalists, instead, I kinda have the impression agreement is just behind the corner.
“I understood your point of view and I have changed mine if I was doing a mistake. If we are still talking it means I figured out what mistake you are doing, why can’t you just understand what I’m saying or tell me the part you aren’t understanding, I’m doing my best to explain and I’ve been honest with you...”
That’s the sensation I usually feel when I care enough to argue about something and just don’t write the effort as hopeless from the start, but it’s just that, what I feel, it’s clearly not easy at all doing all of a sudden what I specifically trained myself to do.
Yep. Let’s not fight about it.
I would say that even among rationalists, it may be sometimes useful to settle for: “logically, at least one of us must be wrong… but finding out which one would probably be too costly, and this topic is not that important”.
Ironically I understood the “too costly” logic between rationalists pretty fast, since I’ve witnessed arguments being dissolved or hitting an objectively hard barrier to overcome really fast.
When I’m dealing with non rationalists, instead, I kinda have the impression agreement is just behind the corner.
“I understood your point of view and I have changed mine if I was doing a mistake. If we are still talking it means I figured out what mistake you are doing, why can’t you just understand what I’m saying or tell me the part you aren’t understanding, I’m doing my best to explain and I’ve been honest with you...”
That’s the sensation I usually feel when I care enough to argue about something and just don’t write the effort as hopeless from the start, but it’s just that, what I feel, it’s clearly not easy at all doing all of a sudden what I specifically trained myself to do.