You have no control down on the cellular level over your body. No deliberate conscious control. No being does. This is what I mean by does not exist in nature. Like teleportation.
If I do weight training, my muscles get bigger and stronger. If I take a painkiller, a toothache is reduced in severity. A vaccination gives me better resistance to some disease. All of these are myself modifying myself.
Everything you have written on this subject seems to be based on superficial appearances and analogies, with no contact with the deep structure of things.
You have no atomic level control over that. You can’t grow a cell at will or kill one or release a hormone. This is what I’m referring to. No being that exists has this level of control. We all operate far above the physical reality of our bodies.
But we suggest an AI will have atomic control. Or that code control is the same as control.
Total control would be you sitting there directing cells to grow or die or change at will.
No AI will be there modifying the circuitry it runs on down at the atomic level.
Quick very off the cuff mod note: I haven’t actually looked into the details of this thread and don’t have time today, but skimming it it looks like it’s maybe spiralling into a Demon Thread and it might be good for people to slow down and think more about what their goals are.
(If everyone involved is actually just having fun hashing an idea out, sorry for my barging in)
Any form of learning is a being modifying itself. How else would learning occur?
You have no control down on the cellular level over your body. No deliberate conscious control. No being does. This is what I mean by does not exist in nature. Like teleportation.
If I do weight training, my muscles get bigger and stronger. If I take a painkiller, a toothache is reduced in severity. A vaccination gives me better resistance to some disease. All of these are myself modifying myself.
Everything you have written on this subject seems to be based on superficial appearances and analogies, with no contact with the deep structure of things.
You have no atomic level control over that. You can’t grow a cell at will or kill one or release a hormone. This is what I’m referring to. No being that exists has this level of control. We all operate far above the physical reality of our bodies.
But we suggest an AI will have atomic control. Or that code control is the same as control.
Total control would be you sitting there directing cells to grow or die or change at will.
No AI will be there modifying the circuitry it runs on down at the atomic level.
Quick very off the cuff mod note: I haven’t actually looked into the details of this thread and don’t have time today, but skimming it it looks like it’s maybe spiralling into a Demon Thread and it might be good for people to slow down and think more about what their goals are.
(If everyone involved is actually just having fun hashing an idea out, sorry for my barging in)