Hmm, but it does seem like trauma triggers and the psychic-distress-via-salmon work via the same mechanism. So probably the key here is to distinguish between actual psychic stress and feigned stress used for status maneuvers. It is not, however, clear to me how to do that in general.
No, the key here is to distinguish between actual psychic stress not used for status maneuvers and actual psychic stress used for status maneuvers. Which is of course even harder.
I tentatively agree, except I think rape victims might be concerned about no longer holding their beliefs about the moral significance of how people in general talk about triggering topics. If those values could be maintained without the stress reaction I would expect them to want the pill.
Yes, I think it’s a crucial distinction that the brits in question would almost all choose to have the electrodes removed immediately. And shortly they would take considerably less offense at pictures of salmon.
Far fewer of the offended muslims (it’s not the case that all muslims are equally offended) would immediately choose to rewire their brains or rewrite their software to avoid the psychic pain. This is because their current configuration was chosen, to a far greater extent than the brit’s was.
This is an important point. In this sense, the Brits are victims of something they can’t control, but if the Muslims had a choice, they wouldn’t control it. So they bear some responsibility for their own offense.
It really is a Gandhi and the murder pill scenario—the training which made them offended by pictures of Mohammed is the same training which makes them not want the vulnerability to offense removed.
I’ve got a mild discomfort with Christianity. It’s not the result of personal experience with anti-Semitism or having to deal with obnoxious Christians. It’s actually a bit embarrassing to have the discomfort, when there are so many people who have good personal reasons to dislike the religion.
Born to Kvetch is a book about Yiddish and the culture it’s part of. There’s a chapter about detestation of Christianity—I don’t have as strong a flavor, but I bet I inherited the way I feel. [1]
The thing is, I suspect that the way I feel about Christianity doesn’t actually serve me, but it’s hard for me to really think about it because the idea of giving it up triggers the idea of not being uncomfortable with (ick!) Christianity.
[1] I believe that a lot of emotional reactions are learned by imitation of emotional reactions.
Hmm, but it does seem like trauma triggers and the psychic-distress-via-salmon work via the same mechanism. So probably the key here is to distinguish between actual psychic stress and feigned stress used for status maneuvers. It is not, however, clear to me how to do that in general.
No, the key here is to distinguish between actual psychic stress not used for status maneuvers and actual psychic stress used for status maneuvers. Which is of course even harder.
How about the classic “murder pill” test? If you could self-modify to no longer experience the psychic stress, would you?
I suspect the psychic-distress-via-salmon and rape victims would answer yes, whereas the Muslims would answer no.
I tentatively agree, except I think rape victims might be concerned about no longer holding their beliefs about the moral significance of how people in general talk about triggering topics. If those values could be maintained without the stress reaction I would expect them to want the pill.
Yes, I think it’s a crucial distinction that the brits in question would almost all choose to have the electrodes removed immediately. And shortly they would take considerably less offense at pictures of salmon.
Far fewer of the offended muslims (it’s not the case that all muslims are equally offended) would immediately choose to rewire their brains or rewrite their software to avoid the psychic pain. This is because their current configuration was chosen, to a far greater extent than the brit’s was.
This is an important point. In this sense, the Brits are victims of something they can’t control, but if the Muslims had a choice, they wouldn’t control it. So they bear some responsibility for their own offense.
It really is a Gandhi and the murder pill scenario—the training which made them offended by pictures of Mohammed is the same training which makes them not want the vulnerability to offense removed.
I’ve got a mild discomfort with Christianity. It’s not the result of personal experience with anti-Semitism or having to deal with obnoxious Christians. It’s actually a bit embarrassing to have the discomfort, when there are so many people who have good personal reasons to dislike the religion.
Born to Kvetch is a book about Yiddish and the culture it’s part of. There’s a chapter about detestation of Christianity—I don’t have as strong a flavor, but I bet I inherited the way I feel. [1]
The thing is, I suspect that the way I feel about Christianity doesn’t actually serve me, but it’s hard for me to really think about it because the idea of giving it up triggers the idea of not being uncomfortable with (ick!) Christianity.
[1] I believe that a lot of emotional reactions are learned by imitation of emotional reactions.