The problem I have is a measure problem. How are we measuring lies? If I say that whales are fish and then I say all birds can fly, and you say the holocaust didn’t happen, that’s 2 for me and 1 for you so I’m a worse liar?
relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief
Note, the implicit inference that such circumstances are more common now than in the past, when this is almost certainly not true.
I didn’t realise the term “post truth” had a precise, official meaning? Anyway I would still say there is a bit of an issue measuring lies, but I definitely concede the point that Donald is very, very far from a truth teller.
The problem I have is a measure problem. How are we measuring lies? If I say that whales are fish and then I say all birds can fly, and you say the holocaust didn’t happen, that’s 2 for me and 1 for you so I’m a worse liar?
I’m going with the official definition of post-truth here, and am comfortable standing by it.
Your linked definition of ‘post-truth’ is:
Note, the implicit inference that such circumstances are more common now than in the past, when this is almost certainly not true.
I didn’t realise the term “post truth” had a precise, official meaning? Anyway I would still say there is a bit of an issue measuring lies, but I definitely concede the point that Donald is very, very far from a truth teller.
Agreed with the issues around measuring lies, and noting the concession of the point—LW gold to you for highlighting the concession.