14 is still half an order of magnitude above 5, and I don’t think neo-Nazis are particularly close to the most complex coordination thousands of people can achieve with a standardized set of words.
I suppose, but, again, “all numbers are made up” was the first sentence in this post, and half an order of magnitude feels within bounds of “the general point of the essay holds up.”
I also don’t currently know of anyone writing on LessWrong or EA forum who should have reason to believe they are as coordinated as the neo-Nazis are here. (See elsethread comment on my take on the state of EA coordination, which was the motivation for this post).
(In Romeo’s terms, the neo-nazis are also using a social tech with unfolding complexity, where their actual coordinated action is “recite the pledge every day”, which lets them them encode additional information. But to get this you need to spend your initial coordinated action on that unfolding action)
14 is still half an order of magnitude above 5, and I don’t think neo-Nazis are particularly close to the most complex coordination thousands of people can achieve with a standardized set of words.
I suppose, but, again, “all numbers are made up” was the first sentence in this post, and half an order of magnitude feels within bounds of “the general point of the essay holds up.”
I also don’t currently know of anyone writing on LessWrong or EA forum who should have reason to believe they are as coordinated as the neo-Nazis are here. (See elsethread comment on my take on the state of EA coordination, which was the motivation for this post).
(In Romeo’s terms, the neo-nazis are also using a social tech with unfolding complexity, where their actual coordinated action is “recite the pledge every day”, which lets them them encode additional information. But to get this you need to spend your initial coordinated action on that unfolding action)