Unfortunately, not being a NYT subscriber I think I can’t see the specific video you mention (the only one with Biden allegedly being led anywhere that I can see before the nag message has his wife doing the alleged leading, and the point of it seems to have been not that someone was leading him somewhere but that he walked off instead of greeting veterans at a D-Day event, and there isn’t anything in the text I can see that calls anything a cheap fake).
(Obviously my lack of an NYT subscription isn’t your problem, but unless there’s another source for what they’re claiming I can’t actually tell whether I agree with your take on it or not.)
Again, I wasn’t claiming that the people spinning conspiracy theories about the NYT wanting Biden out of the way to lower billionaires’ taxes are right. (I think they’re almost certainly wrong.) But when I see, within a week of one another, one claim that you can tell the NYT is politically biased because of how they went out of their way to defend Biden from claims about his age/frailty/… and another claim that you can tell the NYT is politically biased because of how they went out of their way to propagate and dramatize claims about Biden’s age/frailty/..., my instinctive reaction is to be skeptical about both those claims.
… Ah, I’ve found what I think is the text of the NYT article. What it actually says about “cheap fakes” is this:
Some of the videos of Mr. Biden circulating during this year’s campaign are clearly manipulated to make him look old and confused. Others cut out vital context to portray him in a negative light, a process sometimes known as a “cheap fake” because it requires little expense or technological skill to create.
(Which is not at all what I assumed “cheap fake” meant on reading your comment, for what it’s worth.) But that text doesn’t say anything about Obama and doesn’t use the word “fundraiser” (and doesn’t include any of the videos) so I still can’t tell what video it is you’re saying isn’t misleading and therefore have no opinion on whether or not it actually is.
I had a look at a YouTube video from “Sky News AU” which was about the D-Day thing and it looked to me like a mixture of places where Biden’s behaviour was genuinely troubling and short clips of the sort that I’m pretty sure you could find for anyone of his age whether or not there was anything much wrong with them, if you did a bit of cherry-picking. The latter seems like the sort of thing the NYT article called “cheap fakes” and whatever Biden’s current state it seems pretty clear to me that there was some of that going on in the (pretty mainstream, I take it) video I looked at.
Again, I don’t know exactly what video you’re talking about or what the NYT said about it, since in what looks like a copy of the article’s text there’s nothing about Obama leading him anywhere at any fundraiser. But from what I’ve looked at so far, I’m not seeing how the NYT article is misinformation.
(As for the actual question of Biden’s current state of physical and/or cognitive health, which is somewhat relevant to this, I’m not sure what to think. The very worst things look pretty alarming; on the other hand, I took a sort of random sampling of short segments from That Debate and I thought that in them Trump was significantly more incoherent than Biden. And I know that Biden is a lifelong stutterer which will make any sort of slowness look more alarming, and which is a fact that never seems to be mentioned in any of the articles about how decrepit he allegedly is. It’s not relevant to all the things that people are making noise about—e.g., if he calls someone by the wrong name, that’s probably nothing to do with his stutter. On the other hand, calling people by the wrong name happens all the time and e.g. Trump does it a lot too.)
Unfortunately, not being a NYT subscriber I think I can’t see the specific video you mention (the only one with Biden allegedly being led anywhere that I can see before the nag message has his wife doing the alleged leading, and the point of it seems to have been not that someone was leading him somewhere but that he walked off instead of greeting veterans at a D-Day event, and there isn’t anything in the text I can see that calls anything a cheap fake).
(Obviously my lack of an NYT subscription isn’t your problem, but unless there’s another source for what they’re claiming I can’t actually tell whether I agree with your take on it or not.)
Again, I wasn’t claiming that the people spinning conspiracy theories about the NYT wanting Biden out of the way to lower billionaires’ taxes are right. (I think they’re almost certainly wrong.) But when I see, within a week of one another, one claim that you can tell the NYT is politically biased because of how they went out of their way to defend Biden from claims about his age/frailty/… and another claim that you can tell the NYT is politically biased because of how they went out of their way to propagate and dramatize claims about Biden’s age/frailty/..., my instinctive reaction is to be skeptical about both those claims.
… Ah, I’ve found what I think is the text of the NYT article. What it actually says about “cheap fakes” is this:
(Which is not at all what I assumed “cheap fake” meant on reading your comment, for what it’s worth.) But that text doesn’t say anything about Obama and doesn’t use the word “fundraiser” (and doesn’t include any of the videos) so I still can’t tell what video it is you’re saying isn’t misleading and therefore have no opinion on whether or not it actually is.
I had a look at a YouTube video from “Sky News AU” which was about the D-Day thing and it looked to me like a mixture of places where Biden’s behaviour was genuinely troubling and short clips of the sort that I’m pretty sure you could find for anyone of his age whether or not there was anything much wrong with them, if you did a bit of cherry-picking. The latter seems like the sort of thing the NYT article called “cheap fakes” and whatever Biden’s current state it seems pretty clear to me that there was some of that going on in the (pretty mainstream, I take it) video I looked at.
Again, I don’t know exactly what video you’re talking about or what the NYT said about it, since in what looks like a copy of the article’s text there’s nothing about Obama leading him anywhere at any fundraiser. But from what I’ve looked at so far, I’m not seeing how the NYT article is misinformation.
(As for the actual question of Biden’s current state of physical and/or cognitive health, which is somewhat relevant to this, I’m not sure what to think. The very worst things look pretty alarming; on the other hand, I took a sort of random sampling of short segments from That Debate and I thought that in them Trump was significantly more incoherent than Biden. And I know that Biden is a lifelong stutterer which will make any sort of slowness look more alarming, and which is a fact that never seems to be mentioned in any of the articles about how decrepit he allegedly is. It’s not relevant to all the things that people are making noise about—e.g., if he calls someone by the wrong name, that’s probably nothing to do with his stutter. On the other hand, calling people by the wrong name happens all the time and e.g. Trump does it a lot too.)