This is perfectly well true, but I’m not interested in addressing this because I have never known this to be anyone’s sufficient objection to eating meat.
Would you eat a well-treated chicken? How about a deer instantly killed by a Predator drone equipped to vaporize its brain faster than neurons react?
A number of people are motivated to be vegan or vegetarian by the conditions under which factory-farm animals live. For example, Julia Galef in this podcast.
Are you talking about objections or disgust? I can, through emotional manipulation, make you “object” to many things, but these don’t occupy the same space as considered argument.
I’m a vegetarian who is fine with deer hunting and chickens/cows that are raised humanely, able to live their lives doing more or less what cows and chickens would normally spend their lives doing.
I’d guess that the poor treatment of animals is the main reason why people switch to vegetarianism. Most don’t make the fine distinctions that would allow them to continue to eat the rare well-treated animals (although some do), but if food animals typically had pleasant lives and painless deaths then I expect that there would be far fewer vegetarians.
Those are both moral improvements on typical chicken. Another example is mutton: sheep are commonly kept on rocky hillsides which would otherwise go to waste, and commonly have a life that’s about as good as it can get for a sheep, being mostly left alone to live as they would in the wild, except protected from predators and parasites.
I know this comment has already been objected to, but I’ll pile on anyway. Torture is my objection to eating dairy and eggs. Stop the torture, and I will switch back to vegetarianism over veganism. I am currently willing to buy dairy, at least, from “humanely raised” farms (though I never see it in stores, it does exist).
This is perfectly well true, but I’m not interested in addressing this because I have never known this to be anyone’s sufficient objection to eating meat.
Would you eat a well-treated chicken? How about a deer instantly killed by a Predator drone equipped to vaporize its brain faster than neurons react?
A number of people are motivated to be vegan or vegetarian by the conditions under which factory-farm animals live. For example, Julia Galef in this podcast.
Are you talking about objections or disgust? I can, through emotional manipulation, make you “object” to many things, but these don’t occupy the same space as considered argument.
Torture (not murder) is my stated objection to eating meat.
I’m a vegetarian who is fine with deer hunting and chickens/cows that are raised humanely, able to live their lives doing more or less what cows and chickens would normally spend their lives doing.
I’d guess that the poor treatment of animals is the main reason why people switch to vegetarianism. Most don’t make the fine distinctions that would allow them to continue to eat the rare well-treated animals (although some do), but if food animals typically had pleasant lives and painless deaths then I expect that there would be far fewer vegetarians.
Those are both moral improvements on typical chicken. Another example is mutton: sheep are commonly kept on rocky hillsides which would otherwise go to waste, and commonly have a life that’s about as good as it can get for a sheep, being mostly left alone to live as they would in the wild, except protected from predators and parasites.
I know this comment has already been objected to, but I’ll pile on anyway. Torture is my objection to eating dairy and eggs. Stop the torture, and I will switch back to vegetarianism over veganism. I am currently willing to buy dairy, at least, from “humanely raised” farms (though I never see it in stores, it does exist).