In playing for contra dances it’s rare to have a drummer. You mostly
see them at big events where the finances work out for a fourth or
fifth musician: in trio, or especially a duo, you generally can’t
allocate anyone just to drums. What you do see a lot of, however, is
a musician playing foot percussion in addition to something else.
There are a range of ways to do this technically (I wrote a post with lots
of examples) but the most common is acoustic ”
French Canadian
feet”.
You can bring a board and ask the sound person to point a mic at it,
but what you get will depend a lot on how the physical material of the
stage responds. Instead, it’s common for musicians to put together a
piezo and a piece of wood, to get consistently good sound from gig to
gig.
A friend wrote to me to say they’d been having trouble getting a sound
they liked from their board, and asked if I could help them debug it.
I’m not really the ideal person to ask, since I’ve never ended up with
an acoustic sound I’m happy with and have switched over to electronic, but I was
game to play around.
I set us up with a mixer, recording interface, laptop, and PA speaker.
The goal was that we could hear the feet as we played them, but more
importantly we could listen back without the acoustic component so we
could tell how they’d sound in a hall. And we could make recordings,
so we could compare new configurations to older ones without relying
on memory.
Initially my hypothesis was that their DI wasn’t high enough
impedance. This had a large
effect when I tested it with my electric mandolin, and it’s
something people talk about a lot. After a few trials, however, we
realized that the location of the piezo and the shoe material had a
much larger effect.
For example, here are recordings from an MXR M222 (which I liked a lot
last time) and a Radial ProDI (which is a good passive DI but
should lose some bass):
We didn’t end up getting to something we liked because we didn’t start
until after my kids were asleep and I was only good for an hour or so,
but I’d be excited to explore more in this direction to find the ideal
combination of shoe material and piezo placement.
(One of the things that made this annoying was that we started getting
60Hz hum from first one and then both piezos. I’m not sure what
caused it: the second piezo was totally hum-free initially, as
confirmed by the recordings, and then at one point started humming
and didn’t stop no matter what we changed.)
Experimenting With Footboard Piezos
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In playing for contra dances it’s rare to have a drummer. You mostly see them at big events where the finances work out for a fourth or fifth musician: in trio, or especially a duo, you generally can’t allocate anyone just to drums. What you do see a lot of, however, is a musician playing foot percussion in addition to something else. There are a range of ways to do this technically (I wrote a post with lots of examples) but the most common is acoustic ” French Canadian feet”.
You can bring a board and ask the sound person to point a mic at it, but what you get will depend a lot on how the physical material of the stage responds. Instead, it’s common for musicians to put together a piezo and a piece of wood, to get consistently good sound from gig to gig.
A friend wrote to me to say they’d been having trouble getting a sound they liked from their board, and asked if I could help them debug it. I’m not really the ideal person to ask, since I’ve never ended up with an acoustic sound I’m happy with and have switched over to electronic, but I was game to play around.
I set us up with a mixer, recording interface, laptop, and PA speaker. The goal was that we could hear the feet as we played them, but more importantly we could listen back without the acoustic component so we could tell how they’d sound in a hall. And we could make recordings, so we could compare new configurations to older ones without relying on memory.
Initially my hypothesis was that their DI wasn’t high enough impedance. This had a large effect when I tested it with my electric mandolin, and it’s something people talk about a lot. After a few trials, however, we realized that the location of the piezo and the shoe material had a much larger effect.
For example, here are recordings from an MXR M222 (which I liked a lot last time) and a Radial ProDI (which is a good passive DI but should lose some bass):
MXR M222: (mp3)
Radial ProDI: (mp3)
They don’t sound the same, but compare this delta to what we got from changing the placement from nearer the toes to nearer the heels:
Front: (mp3)
Back: (mp3)
Or switching shoes (though this also meant switching people, so it’s not entirely fair):
Shoes 1: (mp3)
Shoes 2: (mp3)
Or even trying it barefoot (both from the same person):
Shoes: (mp3)
Barefoot: (mp3)
We didn’t end up getting to something we liked because we didn’t start until after my kids were asleep and I was only good for an hour or so, but I’d be excited to explore more in this direction to find the ideal combination of shoe material and piezo placement.
(One of the things that made this annoying was that we started getting 60Hz hum from first one and then both piezos. I’m not sure what caused it: the second piezo was totally hum-free initially, as confirmed by the recordings, and then at one point started humming and didn’t stop no matter what we changed.)