The case you described, where the cancer cell resulted in the death of the individual human, could equally well be described as kin selection. An individual that hurt its close genetic relatives- and actually actively kills them- also hurts its individual reproductive success.
The argument against group selection is an argument against its usefulness as a concept. Where group selection works, it is mathematically indistinguishable from kin selection, so you might as well use kin selection as your conceptual model. Additionally, it can be confusing for people who don’t understand the circumstances where it definitely cannot work, which is any case where the individuals are not closely related.
Where group selection works, it is mathematically indistinguishable from kin selection, so you might as well use kin selection as your conceptual model.
I suppose I should have said, “where group selection works in nature.”
From the paper you cited: “Unlike these closed laboratory populations, populations in nature would often be open to emigration.” Evidence of group selection occurring or having occurred in real populations has never been observed.
The case you described, where the cancer cell resulted in the death of the individual human, could equally well be described as kin selection. An individual that hurt its close genetic relatives- and actually actively kills them- also hurts its individual reproductive success.
The argument against group selection is an argument against its usefulness as a concept. Where group selection works, it is mathematically indistinguishable from kin selection, so you might as well use kin selection as your conceptual model. Additionally, it can be confusing for people who don’t understand the circumstances where it definitely cannot work, which is any case where the individuals are not closely related.
Er, that isn’t right. See Wade’s flower beetles.
I suppose I should have said, “where group selection works in nature.”
From the paper you cited: “Unlike these closed laboratory populations, populations in nature would often be open to emigration.” Evidence of group selection occurring or having occurred in real populations has never been observed.