I was looking at the specs for the Kia EV6 after someone
brought it up in a
discussion:
DC Fast Charge Time (10-80% @ 350 kW via Electric Vehicle Supply
Equipment) Level 3 Charger: Approx. 18 min.
If you’re not familiar with EVs or other similar equipment you might
think that this draws a constant 350kW, but charging a 77.4 kWh
battery from 10-80% at 350kW would take only 9min so it can’t be that.
Instead, EVs are smart: they communicate with the charger to draw
varying amounts of current depending on how quickly the battery can
accept charge.
So then you might think that 350kW reflects the peak current the car
draws. But no: when P3
Group measured it they found it peaks at 235kW, before throttling
back when the battery gets to 50%.
This isn’t unique to Kia: I started going through P3′s report looking
up advertised rates, and drawing much less than advertised was the
norm. Even starting from a low state of charge and preconditioning
the battery for fast charging:
The two exceptions I found were very small cars that didn’t make large
claims: the Fiat 500e (85kW)
and Mini Cooper SE (50kW)
did test as advertised. [EDIT: Tesla is also fine; I originally
misread the report and thought it peaked at 146 kW, but it does hit
it’s 250 kW claim.]
On the other hand, peak current doesn’t actually matter very much:
these cars have a range of charging curves and what actually matters
is how quickly a charger extends your range. P3 also ran that test,
looking at how many miles you can go with 20min of charging from 10%,
and on this metric the EV6 came in first, hitting 192mi. So while I
don’t want to be too hard on Kia—they do seem to have made a car
that can charge very fast—listing 350kW when they only peaked at
235kW is weird.
Misleading Fast Charging Specs
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I was looking at the specs for the Kia EV6 after someone brought it up in a discussion:
If you’re not familiar with EVs or other similar equipment you might think that this draws a constant 350kW, but charging a 77.4 kWh battery from 10-80% at 350kW would take only 9min so it can’t be that. Instead, EVs are smart: they communicate with the charger to draw varying amounts of current depending on how quickly the battery can accept charge.
So then you might think that 350kW reflects the peak current the car draws. But no: when P3 Group measured it they found it peaks at 235kW, before throttling back when the battery gets to 50%.
This isn’t unique to Kia: I started going through P3′s report looking up advertised rates, and drawing much less than advertised was the norm. Even starting from a low state of charge and preconditioning the battery for fast charging:
The two exceptions I found were very small cars that didn’t make large claims: the Fiat 500e (85kW) and Mini Cooper SE (50kW) did test as advertised. [EDIT: Tesla is also fine; I originally misread the report and thought it peaked at 146 kW, but it does hit it’s 250 kW claim.]
On the other hand, peak current doesn’t actually matter very much: these cars have a range of charging curves and what actually matters is how quickly a charger extends your range. P3 also ran that test, looking at how many miles you can go with 20min of charging from 10%, and on this metric the EV6 came in first, hitting 192mi. So while I don’t want to be too hard on Kia—they do seem to have made a car that can charge very fast—listing 350kW when they only peaked at 235kW is weird.
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