(though I have seen speculation that he has returned under a different name).
Which doesn’t mean that the new account doesn’t also get deleted and we will be more careful the next time around. It’s just that processes on LW take time.
For the avoidance of doubt, I agree and wasn’t at all intending to suggest that if Eugine is back then kicking him out didn’t accomplish anything, or that if he’s back and behaving in the same way that got him thrown out the first time it’s in any way worrying that he hasn’t been re-expelled yet.
(I do think that if it turns out he’s back and doing the same things that got him thrown out before, the moderators should dial up the disincentives this time around. Block LW access from his IP address, reverse every vote he ever cast, that sort of thing.)
he’s back and behaving in the same way that got him thrown out the first time it’s in any way worrying that he hasn’t been re-expelled yet.
Back in days where I was moderating a forum, rebanning a reregistered person might have taken a week and not months. Given the amount of time I spent on LW I wouldn’t have expected that it takes me that long but then I’m not thinking anymore with the moderator hat.
Block LW access from his IP address
That doesn’t accomplish anything given the availability of proxies. Expect maybe being an insult in his perceived lack of IT knowledge.
reverse every vote he ever cast, that sort of thing
I’m all for insulting people who abuse the system :-). And for putting trivial inconveniences in their way, if nontrivial ones are too difficult.
And presumably, indeed, reversing all someone’s votes isn’t currently supported by whatever LW admin tools there are, and implementing that feature would be a non-negligible cost to weigh against the ability to disincentivize abuse in that way.
(For the avoidance of ambiguity: I meant “undo”, not “reverse the sign of”. It would be quite amusing to reverse the sign of all someone’s votes as a punishment for abuse, but I can think of more than one reason why it probably wouldn’t be a good idea.)
Which doesn’t mean that the new account doesn’t also get deleted and we will be more careful the next time around. It’s just that processes on LW take time.
For the avoidance of doubt, I agree and wasn’t at all intending to suggest that if Eugine is back then kicking him out didn’t accomplish anything, or that if he’s back and behaving in the same way that got him thrown out the first time it’s in any way worrying that he hasn’t been re-expelled yet.
(I do think that if it turns out he’s back and doing the same things that got him thrown out before, the moderators should dial up the disincentives this time around. Block LW access from his IP address, reverse every vote he ever cast, that sort of thing.)
Back in days where I was moderating a forum, rebanning a reregistered person might have taken a week and not months. Given the amount of time I spent on LW I wouldn’t have expected that it takes me that long but then I’m not thinking anymore with the moderator hat.
That doesn’t accomplish anything given the availability of proxies. Expect maybe being an insult in his perceived lack of IT knowledge.
That needs someone to write the necessary code.
I’m all for insulting people who abuse the system :-). And for putting trivial inconveniences in their way, if nontrivial ones are too difficult.
And presumably, indeed, reversing all someone’s votes isn’t currently supported by whatever LW admin tools there are, and implementing that feature would be a non-negligible cost to weigh against the ability to disincentivize abuse in that way.
(For the avoidance of ambiguity: I meant “undo”, not “reverse the sign of”. It would be quite amusing to reverse the sign of all someone’s votes as a punishment for abuse, but I can think of more than one reason why it probably wouldn’t be a good idea.)
People switching IP addresses makes it harder to track that they are reregistering, so it’s usually no smart move to force this behavior.