RationalWiki may not be a great place for gaining accurate world-views, but it is a fantastic repository of the sort of rationalized pseudo-philosophy which the modern atheist movement loves. For those individuals of a certain contrarian nature, I imagine it can also be rather droll in an ironic sort of way. For example:
This is New England’s Irony #4 — that a region that, for all of its history, had been so uptight could also be so remarkably progressive on so many issues.
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And on top of that, there’s Irony #5 — the direct descendants of the old Puritan congregational churches, the United Church of Christ and the Unitarian Universalist Church, are the most liberal Christian denominations in America, and possibly the world, throwing their support behind gay rights and other socially progressive causes.
For those who downvoted, the two most obvious reasons would be either me insulting the epistemological practices of the modern atheist movement or me making a reference to the theories of Moldbug. Regardless of whether or not this is the case, I would find an explanation of downvotes to be very useful.
Moldbug claims that American liberalism is a descendent of American Puritanism and, as such, there is no irony in a Puritan-descended church being liberal.
o_0 I’d ask for a link, but life is too short to read Moldbug. Does he explain the Enlightenment in general as a descendant of Puritanism, or something similar? ’Cos the world, and RW, are slightly bigger than America.
First, my excessive precision may have been rather myopic.
Nonetheless, Moldbug does, in fact, hold that the Enlightenment (a nebulous historical concept) was a manifestation of a particular strain of Protestantism.
If you do have the time, here is a relevant Moldbug article:
Thanks for that. I’m sure Moldbug can write clearly and concisely, and one day he will. Apparently he spent the previous epic post conclusively proving a hypothesis (that Richard Dawkins is the kind of atheist who is a cultural Christian) that Dawkins has stated outright repeatedly. Well done.
It is not clear from the first thousand words if he comes up with evidence of actual ideological descent, as compared to the hypothesis of exploration of a similar attitudinal conceptspace: being able to say “see? that’s just like Calvin! A bit!” is not actually proof-level evidence of a link. (The error is of a similar kind to straw postmodernists mapping out the hermeneutics of Moby Dick and seeing World War II described therein. Ideological attitudes repeat in history, because humans are cognitively much the same; similarities are useful in forming predictions, but don’t constitute the firm evidence of descent that Moldbug claims here.)
Is there a glossary to the jargon he uses in this post (M.41, M.42)?
Is there a glossary to the jargon he uses in this post (M.41, M.42)?
Without looking at the post… I’d say that M.41 is the dark, troubled and uncertain time that we live in, and M.42 is prophesized to be the Time of Ending itself, when either the God-Emperor will return in His full glory to lead mankind anew, or the Imperium will be torn apart by Chaos and the ravening xenos, never to be rebuilt. So there.
Edit: I looked at the post, but I still prefer the WH40k interpretation, since it suits them neo-reactionaries better!
RationalWiki may not be a great place for gaining accurate world-views, but it is a fantastic repository of the sort of rationalized pseudo-philosophy which the modern atheist movement loves. For those individuals of a certain contrarian nature, I imagine it can also be rather droll in an ironic sort of way. For example:
From New England:
and
For those who downvoted, the two most obvious reasons would be either me insulting the epistemological practices of the modern atheist movement or me making a reference to the theories of Moldbug. Regardless of whether or not this is the case, I would find an explanation of downvotes to be very useful.
Well, I upvoted. I might downvote for Moldbug, though. What was the Moldbug bit?
Moldbug claims that American liberalism is a descendent of American Puritanism and, as such, there is no irony in a Puritan-descended church being liberal.
o_0 I’d ask for a link, but life is too short to read Moldbug. Does he explain the Enlightenment in general as a descendant of Puritanism, or something similar? ’Cos the world, and RW, are slightly bigger than America.
First, my excessive precision may have been rather myopic.
Nonetheless, Moldbug does, in fact, hold that the Enlightenment (a nebulous historical concept) was a manifestation of a particular strain of Protestantism.
If you do have the time, here is a relevant Moldbug article:
How Dawkins Got Pwned (part 2)
Thanks for that. I’m sure Moldbug can write clearly and concisely, and one day he will. Apparently he spent the previous epic post conclusively proving a hypothesis (that Richard Dawkins is the kind of atheist who is a cultural Christian) that Dawkins has stated outright repeatedly. Well done.
It is not clear from the first thousand words if he comes up with evidence of actual ideological descent, as compared to the hypothesis of exploration of a similar attitudinal conceptspace: being able to say “see? that’s just like Calvin! A bit!” is not actually proof-level evidence of a link. (The error is of a similar kind to straw postmodernists mapping out the hermeneutics of Moby Dick and seeing World War II described therein. Ideological attitudes repeat in history, because humans are cognitively much the same; similarities are useful in forming predictions, but don’t constitute the firm evidence of descent that Moldbug claims here.)
Is there a glossary to the jargon he uses in this post (M.41, M.42)?
Without looking at the post… I’d say that M.41 is the dark, troubled and uncertain time that we live in, and M.42 is prophesized to be the Time of Ending itself, when either the God-Emperor will return in His full glory to lead mankind anew, or the Imperium will be torn apart by Chaos and the ravening xenos, never to be rebuilt. So there.
Edit: I looked at the post, but I still prefer the WH40k interpretation, since it suits them neo-reactionaries better!