If there are TVs in Naruto, there is probably science. We don’t see the science specifically getting done, but we see the results of it often in the form of TVs and many other advanced technologies.
That always bugged me about Naruto—it seemed inconsistent, like many of the things in Harry Potter that MoR points out.
Although while we’re discussing the topic, I’m not sure a TV necessarily indicates/requires science. China and Japan both reached quite high levels of technology without any formal science tradition. (I read through 1 volume of Science and Civilisation in China and came out impressed how much lone inventors and craftsmen could do.) Maybe given another few millennia they could have TVs without science. It’s not like the Naruto world maps straight onto ours or anything.
Shikamaru can be a game player and a scientist. And a ninja.
FWIW, right now, I don’t think I would read the fic. I mean, it’s not terrible, it’s fairly decent, but it’s just too much like MoR for me now. I couldn’t enjoy reading it. I’d rather keep reading The Last Ringbearer and wait for MoR or Radiance updates.
But, a Shikamaru who is a gameplayer… I might find that worth reading. That’s different. That might let you escape MoR’s shadow.
And yes, we are heavily influenced by MoR, and we are trying to develop our own voice over time. Thanks for pointing out this influence, though.
This is excellent criticism, gwern. We’ll strive for independence from MoR as one of our primary concerns in future. Let me know if you have any further advice on this point.
That always bugged me about Naruto—it seemed inconsistent, like many of the things in Harry Potter that MoR points out.
Although while we’re discussing the topic, I’m not sure a TV necessarily indicates/requires science. China and Japan both reached quite high levels of technology without any formal science tradition. (I read through 1 volume of Science and Civilisation in China and came out impressed how much lone inventors and craftsmen could do.) Maybe given another few millennia they could have TVs without science. It’s not like the Naruto world maps straight onto ours or anything.
FWIW, right now, I don’t think I would read the fic. I mean, it’s not terrible, it’s fairly decent, but it’s just too much like MoR for me now. I couldn’t enjoy reading it. I’d rather keep reading The Last Ringbearer and wait for MoR or Radiance updates.
But, a Shikamaru who is a gameplayer… I might find that worth reading. That’s different. That might let you escape MoR’s shadow.
Well, good luck!
This is excellent criticism, gwern. We’ll strive for independence from MoR as one of our primary concerns in future. Let me know if you have any further advice on this point.