By stress I mean that you have a “my life (or status) is in danger if I do not succeed” somatic response. Some people would have that response to the conditions you mention, others would not. I work a lot with people who are in chronic procrastination about things that will result in serious loss of money, status, or both, if they don’t complete them… and they’re not always able to even do the steps of “just doing it” until I teach them to disengage the negative markers.
However, if you’re saying you have a significant negative somatic marker and you have a procedure that works repeatably in that context, I’d definitely be interested in hearing about it. Sometimes, people’s enthusiasm for a new idea distracts them sufficiently to avoid engaging the negative marker… but then the effect goes away once the technique is no longer novel. (This used to drive me nuts when I was starting out, before I got the idea of making sure I could reliably reproduce the stress condition before testing a technique to alleviate it.)
Anyway, if you find that your method works consistently under stress conditions—as defined by active somatic markers of life- or status-endangering threat—then I would be very interested in finding out what, specifically, you’re doing, as it would be a real improvement.
To be clear, that means you would need to have identified a thought about the project that induces an observable somatic marker of (di)stress… and then show that your method replaces it with a marker of motivation. If you can do that, I’ll definitely want to see if I can reproduce the effect myself and on my clients.
Presently, I’m not aware of any such technique that does not involve first deactivating the stress marker in some fashion… which is why I suspect that either you are deactivating it in some way, not experiencing it in the first place… or else have developed a new technique that I should learn. ;-) (Or are distracted by novelty that will wear off, have a weak enough stress marker that it can be overwhelmed, etc. etc.)
By stress I mean that you have a “my life (or status) is in danger if I do not succeed” somatic response.
under stress conditions—as defined by active somatic markers of life- or status-endangering threat
I’m not sure if this applies to my situation. Was the situation life-threatening? Definitely not—and I don’t think that my mind unconsciously deemed it to be so. Was my status threatened? Perhaps yes, but I’m not sure, and I don’t think that status is particularly valuable to me at this point.
The key factor was that the failure to complete that task would result in a monetary loss (or, more precisely, my company would lose several possible revenue streams.) The economic climate is not exactly warm these days, the revenues are declining despite growing website traffic (not just my case, other software firms I know experience this decline as well) -- so yes, I think money was the primary issue.
As I said, it’s the physical response that counts. Did you feel stuck, paralyzed, frozen? A desire to run away? Terror? Shame? Guilt? Embarrassment? (Those last three are what I mean by “loss of status”.)
I think money was the primary issue.
If you’re not actually afraid of losing money then you’re not going to have a somatic marker for life- or status-threatening stress. If you were afraid of losing your job, not being able to support your family, and that you’d be an utter failure as a spouse and parent, yet you felt paralyzed and unable to move forward, then that would count.
That’s the kind of stress responses I mostly work with, not inconveniences or mere preference for a different state of affairs. People who are under that kind of (self-generated, but usually unaware) stress don’t respond well to being told to “just do it”. ;-) (Aside from not helping, it tends to enhance the shame or guilt of not being able to.)
However, for the most part, your comment sounds like analytical “far” thinking, and most often our actual motivations are unrelated to our “far” analyses of them, when you check the “near” thinking that goes on under the hood.
A minor and more common form of stress response to a situation like you describe might be an internal prediction like, “the boss is gonna be livid if we don’t get this done”—associated with apprehension and discomfort at that prospect. And if the associated somatic marker is mild, you might be able to overcome it or just ignore it… especially if you also have novelty/excitement linked to the technique you’re trying.
Note that human beings always act for concrete reasons, not abstract ones… we can take our abstract rules and apply them to situations to create concrete reasons, but if we don’t, then we don’t actually act!
Conversely, the real reasons we avoid doing things are also concrete, not abstract. We don’t get stressed about a project because “the company will lose money”, but because of what that means in real-world events like, “I get yelled at” or “I get fired” or “I’ll look like an idiot”. Those outcomes are stored with somatic markers and linked to the abstract concept. People then confuse the abstract with the somatic, by thinking that “company loses money” equals “bad”, even though that label exists only in the map, not the territory. Removing the less-helpful markers (roughly equivalent to “not looking down” in principle/effect) then restores relative rationality in that area.
We don’t get stressed about a project because “the company will lose money”, but because of what that means in real-world events like, “I get yelled at” or “I get fired” or “I’ll look like an idiot”.
Bingo. My case was “my application will get rejected, and I will not pass the approval”. The stress level wasn’t that high—it was an inconvenience. I didn’t feel “stuck, paralyzed or frozen”—I just felt like a dumb moron who for some stupid reason is unable to follow his own plans.
By stress I mean that you have a “my life (or status) is in danger if I do not succeed” somatic response. Some people would have that response to the conditions you mention, others would not. I work a lot with people who are in chronic procrastination about things that will result in serious loss of money, status, or both, if they don’t complete them… and they’re not always able to even do the steps of “just doing it” until I teach them to disengage the negative markers.
However, if you’re saying you have a significant negative somatic marker and you have a procedure that works repeatably in that context, I’d definitely be interested in hearing about it. Sometimes, people’s enthusiasm for a new idea distracts them sufficiently to avoid engaging the negative marker… but then the effect goes away once the technique is no longer novel. (This used to drive me nuts when I was starting out, before I got the idea of making sure I could reliably reproduce the stress condition before testing a technique to alleviate it.)
Anyway, if you find that your method works consistently under stress conditions—as defined by active somatic markers of life- or status-endangering threat—then I would be very interested in finding out what, specifically, you’re doing, as it would be a real improvement.
To be clear, that means you would need to have identified a thought about the project that induces an observable somatic marker of (di)stress… and then show that your method replaces it with a marker of motivation. If you can do that, I’ll definitely want to see if I can reproduce the effect myself and on my clients.
Presently, I’m not aware of any such technique that does not involve first deactivating the stress marker in some fashion… which is why I suspect that either you are deactivating it in some way, not experiencing it in the first place… or else have developed a new technique that I should learn. ;-) (Or are distracted by novelty that will wear off, have a weak enough stress marker that it can be overwhelmed, etc. etc.)
I’m not sure if this applies to my situation. Was the situation life-threatening? Definitely not—and I don’t think that my mind unconsciously deemed it to be so. Was my status threatened? Perhaps yes, but I’m not sure, and I don’t think that status is particularly valuable to me at this point.
The key factor was that the failure to complete that task would result in a monetary loss (or, more precisely, my company would lose several possible revenue streams.) The economic climate is not exactly warm these days, the revenues are declining despite growing website traffic (not just my case, other software firms I know experience this decline as well) -- so yes, I think money was the primary issue.
Does this count as a stress marker?
As I said, it’s the physical response that counts. Did you feel stuck, paralyzed, frozen? A desire to run away? Terror? Shame? Guilt? Embarrassment? (Those last three are what I mean by “loss of status”.)
If you’re not actually afraid of losing money then you’re not going to have a somatic marker for life- or status-threatening stress. If you were afraid of losing your job, not being able to support your family, and that you’d be an utter failure as a spouse and parent, yet you felt paralyzed and unable to move forward, then that would count.
That’s the kind of stress responses I mostly work with, not inconveniences or mere preference for a different state of affairs. People who are under that kind of (self-generated, but usually unaware) stress don’t respond well to being told to “just do it”. ;-) (Aside from not helping, it tends to enhance the shame or guilt of not being able to.)
However, for the most part, your comment sounds like analytical “far” thinking, and most often our actual motivations are unrelated to our “far” analyses of them, when you check the “near” thinking that goes on under the hood.
A minor and more common form of stress response to a situation like you describe might be an internal prediction like, “the boss is gonna be livid if we don’t get this done”—associated with apprehension and discomfort at that prospect. And if the associated somatic marker is mild, you might be able to overcome it or just ignore it… especially if you also have novelty/excitement linked to the technique you’re trying.
Note that human beings always act for concrete reasons, not abstract ones… we can take our abstract rules and apply them to situations to create concrete reasons, but if we don’t, then we don’t actually act!
Conversely, the real reasons we avoid doing things are also concrete, not abstract. We don’t get stressed about a project because “the company will lose money”, but because of what that means in real-world events like, “I get yelled at” or “I get fired” or “I’ll look like an idiot”. Those outcomes are stored with somatic markers and linked to the abstract concept. People then confuse the abstract with the somatic, by thinking that “company loses money” equals “bad”, even though that label exists only in the map, not the territory. Removing the less-helpful markers (roughly equivalent to “not looking down” in principle/effect) then restores relative rationality in that area.
Bingo. My case was “my application will get rejected, and I will not pass the approval”. The stress level wasn’t that high—it was an inconvenience. I didn’t feel “stuck, paralyzed or frozen”—I just felt like a dumb moron who for some stupid reason is unable to follow his own plans.